He was on BBC Radio 4's The Moral Maze up against the journalist Melanie Phillips, who had previously attacked DrugScope as being part of a grand conspiracy to bamboozle David Blunkett and legalise drugs. He says: "It made for quite lively discussion. I was nervous, but I wanted to do it because I was angry that she was attacking an organisation as highly regarded as DrugScope." His performance is to be applauded all the more because, prior to DrugScope, he had no involvement in the drugs sector, working for 11 years at the Child Poverty Action Group, five of them as director.
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