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"We already work many weekends and evenings. We are becoming a group of professionals who are isolated from friends and family due to working at opposite times of day."

A CYP Now survey has found that while youth workers agree more Friday and Saturday night projects are needed, many fear they could lead to the closure of existing weekday schemes and risk compromising their professional integrity. Andy Hillier reports.
Young people coming through door of youth centre. Credit: Arlen Connelly
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"We already work many weekends and evenings. We are becoming a group of professionals who are isolated from friends and family due to working at opposite times of day."
This is just one of the hundreds of comments made by youth workers in response to CYP Now's Weekend Working Survey, timed to coincide with the government's Open Weekend initiative on 10 and 11 July to encourage more youth clubs to open on Friday and Saturday nights.
The survey finds youth workers are largely receptive to the idea of more facilities opening at weekends to meet the needs of young people living in their areas. Of the 311 workers who responded to the questionnaire, 69 per cent say increasing the number of weekend activities would be possible in their area and 46 per cent add that young people had asked for more facilities to be open at the weekend.
However, when asked if they personally would be willing to increase the amount of weekend working they undertake, the response is almost evenly split, with 51 per cent saying yes and 49 per cent saying no.
Personal lives
One consistently cited reason for not wanting to work more weekends is the effect this will have on their own personal lives.
One youth worker comments: "Who is looking after our children and giving them the parental love and guidance they need while we are out additional weekends and evenings working with other people's children?"
Fears that existing youth projects would be forced to close in order to concentrate on providing activities at weekends are also widely held among those surveyed. Sixty-eight per cent of respondents believe that running additional weekend projects would come at the expense of existing schemes.
One youth worker says: "We would have to decant staff from other nights to run Saturday provision. We would hope to spread this across weekdays within an area, but it would mean some projects closing another night to achieve this."
Confusion remains over how weekend working will be funded in the long term as well. The Department for Children, Schools and Families has stated that local authorities will have to make use of existing funding streams, such as the Positive Activities for Young People programme, to make regular weekend opening a reality.
Funding concerns
Of the youth workers who were surveyed, only 29 per cent say they have received additional money to run projects at the weekend. And some of those who have received additional funding are concerned about how long this will last.
"We received about £100,000 but it is not sufficient," comments one. Another adds: "I have a budget to put on work as and when required by the group that we are targeting, but the issue is finding the staff to do those hours."
Despite pledges from the government that a variety of partner agencies need to be involved in delivering weekend activities, only 37 per cent of those surveyed say this is currently happening in their area.
The police is the agency most likely to be involved in delivering weekend projects alongside youth workers - something that a few respondents are uneasy about.
"I feel this is inappropriate in terms of youth work practice," says one. Another adds: "Police want us to do their jobs for them by policing young people who come to the high street."
Alcohol concerns
Crucially, when asked if running more weekend projects would pose any particular challenges, more than 80 of the 311 respondents express concern about dealing with the consequences of young people's drinking. Youth workers could end up dealing with "violence and aggression, aggravated by a culture of Friday night drinking" says one.
Another fears youth clubs could turn into places where young people "sober up" before going home. Allied to this is a feeling that youth workers could become a "babysitting service as opposed to social and political educators".
A significant number say they want additional training on dealing with young people under the influence of alcohol and drugs, as well as coping with aggressive behaviour.
Of those surveyed, 77 per cent of respondents work for a local authority, 18 per cent in the voluntary sector and five per cent in other areas, including the private sector.
Exactly half of the respondents describe themselves as professional youth workers, 18 per cent as youth work managers, nine per cent as youth support managers, four per cent as heads of youth services and four per cent as volunteers. The remaining 15 per cent hold other youth work roles.
Young people's views
Young people themselves are very much in favour of having additional weekend activities. In a separate survey, CYP Now asked 100 young people whether they thought more projects should be available at the weekends and 79 per cent agreed.
When asked if they would regularly attend projects on Friday and Saturday nights if more projects were available, 65 per cent say yes.
The most popular activities they would like to see more of are arts projects, dance groups, youth discos and sports schemes.
Young people identify a number of barriers that would put them off attending projects. Chief among these are a lack of local transport and the fact their parents do not like them going out late in the evenings for safety reasons. As one teenager puts it: "My parents won't let me out on a Friday or Saturday due to lairy teenagers driving around."
YOUTH WORKER SURVEY
- Do you think that increasing the number of weekend projects would be possible?
Yes: 69%
- Do you already operate youth services on Friday and Saturday nights?
Yes: 61%
- Would you personally be willing to increase the amount of weekend working you undertake?
Yes: 51%
- Do you think your colleagues would be willing to increase the amount of weekend working they undertake?
Yes: 32%
- Do you think that young people who might otherwise get into trouble will be attracted to weekend projects?
Yes: 55%
- Have you encountered any difficulties securing facilities such as community centres or schools at weekends?
Yes: 30%
COMMENTS
"We've not pushed for it but facilities have been available in the past."
"Schools don't want anything in their properties at weekends or evenings, despite the extended services pledge."
"We once tried to hire a community centre for a disco and were turned down as it would attract 'naughty' young people. What rubbish."
"Our youth club is based in a school that doesn't open on a weekend."
- If you were to offer more weekend activities, would you have to stop running other youth projects?
Yes: 68%
COMMENTS
"If I offered weekend sessions then after-school and weekday evening sessions would have to close."
"Busy weeknight sessions would have to be cut to run weekend sessions."
"There are not enough resources to maintain full weekday openings."
"We are stretched to capacity. To offer more weekend work, I would need more staff."
"Young people have requested sessions midweek as they are either away at weekends, with family or out drinking. I can't understand the government's thinking on this."
- Has any additional funding been made available to help run more weekend projects in your area?
Yes: 29%
COMMENTS
"We received money from the Youth Taskforce via the Youth Crime Action Plan, which implies this is about enforcement rather than youth work."
"There is Positive Activities for Young People money available but we can't always access it as we often need extra staff who are hard to come by."
"Money hasn't been made available but we have pursued it. On the whole, it's community safety and police funding, not youth service money."
"We received additional external funding to pay for more staff, but when the jobs were advertised all the applicants had no experience."
- Are any other agencies such as the police or leisure services helping you to run activities at the weekends?
Yes: 37%
COMMENTS
"The police partnership is unreliable because other priorities frequently remove police staff from projects."
"Our weekend outreach sessions have been supported by police and community wardens."
"None are currently involved, but leisure services are supporting the Open Weekend."
"More help would be great as having the clubs open during weekends helps reduce the amount of young people hanging around the street."
"Police, health and leisure services are all involved."
YOUNG PEOPLE SURVEY
- Do you think that more activities should be available to young people at weekends?
Yes: 79%
COMMENTS
"Yes, because at the weekends some kids get bored and want to go and meet their friends but they're not always in so they might want to do something at a youth club instead."
"In the summer there should be more outdoor sports activities, and in the winter there should be more youth club nights with lots of facilities available."
"For the older young people, there is not that much for us to do as we don't always like to go to youth clubs. Older young people just tend to hit the town. I like the idea of hitting the town as a group as it would be safer."
OTHER VIEWS
"Amazing, isn't it? Along comes a government agenda and everyone has to jump. We are not an attractive alternative to the young people that drink at weekends."
"Young people really need something to do on Friday and Saturday nights as that is when they are bored and get silly."
"Weekend working is being used as an excuse for youth workers to be used as surrogate police during periods of antisocial behaviour."
"How can it be so common for so many other occupations to work on weekends, yet there is still such a gap in the youth work sector between need and provision?"
"The rationale seems misguided. Young people can't be under the supervision of youth workers 24 hours a day, seven days a week. If this were the case, we might as well put bars on the windows and call our youth centres prisons."

You could well be right there - I posted a job description a while back in this post which incredibly states youth workers working hours as 'occasional weekend and evening duties' so clearly there are structural issues. I agree too with previous comments about issue based approaches, and I'm in favour too with looking to set things up effectively, but I'm also unwilling to fuel excuses for youth services not being provided at weekends.
[quote user="mas"]Do you mean you work weekends with your group when they need you to and when you're available?![/quote] It's a bit more complicated than that. As I said in my post, my methodology has to operate within the boundaries of reality. Weekend work with a group would depend on funding availability, group needs (and sometimes group wants), transport availability, availability of resources/facilities, availability of support staff and - yes - my own availability. Because I do sometimes have the odd weekend commitment and sometimes I need to prioritise work mid-week.
[quote user="mas"] I've often found doing the right thing for the wrong reason is the only way to do it. I don't see what's bullsh!t about providing something for young people to do in any case - most of the bullsh!t I see so far are the excuses made for not doing it. As already said I think the way forward is to support those who are willing to do it.[/quote] Doing the right thing for the wrong reason is the only way to do it if you have no other choice. That isn't the case here. You seem to be pushing at an open door. I have the greatest respect for people who are willing to give up their weekends to work with young people. Do I think the youth service should provide consistent weekend provision. Hell yes! Do I think it's possible with the current structures? Hell no! I just like to see things done effectively rather than just making the best out of a bad deal.
[quote user="Gods lonely youthworker ."]I’m talking about a methodology which embraces a needs-led ethos but stays within the context of realistic expectations[/quote]
Do you mean you work weekends with your group when they need you to and when you're available?!
I've often found doing the right thing for the wrong reason is the only way to do it. I don't see what's bullsh!t about providing something for young people to do in any case - most of the bullsh!t I see so far are the excuses made for not doing it. As already said I think the way forward is to support those who are willing to do it.
They are indeed entirely different. I’m talking about a methodology which embraces a needs-led ethos but stays within the context of realistic expectations. The government on the other hand are talking about a non-negotiable, prescribed weekend provision. Or more precisely, a strategy for reducing the statistics of weekend anti-social behaviour. It isn’t that I entirely disagree with the principle of regular weekend services, it’s more that I get that familiar anxiety attack about doing the right thing for the wrong reason and vice versa. This will be another example of pouring big money in to corporate youth services. This will be about youth services engaging easy targets to meet their outputs. This will be about creating bullsh!t initiatives to address a bullsh!t strategy. We know who the government are trying to target. The ones who engage in weekend binge drinking. The ones who are involved in or on the periphery of criminal activities. How are we going to lure these “difficult” young people into positive activities at the weekend? Accredited courses in knife crime? Issue-based youth work? Time will tell.
Making arrangements to meet at times convenient to a particular group that may include the odd weekend and making regular, consistent provision for young people at weekends are different things. I don't think this is about individual people working weekends, it's about local authorities making provision for young people at weekends and I'd argue this will be done much more effectively and enthusiastically through voluntary organisations even if that means redirecting some funding towards them.
What do youth workers really think? Well, different youth workers think different things of course. And it is also a probability that what they think and what they say are two very different things.
My own perspective is that statutory youth services, as they are currently structured, will not fit in easily with regular weekend work and I suspect many Community/Voluntary organisations will struggle to provide consistent staffing. There are many, many complicated influences which make this issue yet another nail in the coffin of “effective” youth work.
Again, we’re faced with prescribed outcomes. National strategy tells me who I work with and why I’m working with them before I even meet them. And now it tells me when I’m working with them. I tend to work weekends whenever they are mutually convenient to me and my contact group. We find this out through dialogue and negotiation and cooperation. This has always been the case for me. I’ve reached an average of at least 3 residential activities per year plus the odd weekend activity. That’s manageable... and it’s a good compromise... and it’s fair.
Good survey this and well done for putting it together - have posted my own thoughts here. Short version is I think maybe its time to move the debate away from youth services being made available at weekends and instead make funding available to voluntary projects to ensure they can continue to provide at weekends and where possible extend what they can offer - don't waste funding on services that will be delivered reluctantly.
There is too much worry about the availabilty of funding for the youth projects that our communities want to run. This is a discrace. There should not be any limit on the amount of funding available to the communities, especially if this funding could and would help the youth of today.
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